Comments on: What are the Lebanese like? https://gingerbeirut.com/what-are-the-lebanese-like/ rules not included. Sat, 22 Jan 2011 15:58:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Georgia Paterson Dargham https://gingerbeirut.com/what-are-the-lebanese-like/comment-page-1/#comment-12089 Georgia Paterson Dargham Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:24:13 +0000 https://gingerbeirut.com/?p=1323#comment-12089 Thanks for your comments, Chrissy and Fadi. Lebanon is more resilient than it would seem from the news, Chrissy so there's hope war is not in fact waiting around the corner. In the meantime, the Lebanese are indeed very good at getting on with life despite the political jitters, and that's just as well. Nice post Fadi. I'm sure Lebanon will always have a character of its own, whatever the future holds. Thanks for your comments, Chrissy and Fadi. Lebanon is more resilient than it would seem from the news, Chrissy so there’s hope war is not in fact waiting around the corner. In the meantime, the Lebanese are indeed very good at getting on with life despite the political jitters, and that’s just as well.
Nice post Fadi. I’m sure Lebanon will always have a character of its own, whatever the future holds.

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By: Fadi https://gingerbeirut.com/what-are-the-lebanese-like/comment-page-1/#comment-11990 Fadi Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:23:44 +0000 https://gingerbeirut.com/?p=1323#comment-11990 If it's any consolation, it's also very hard for the Lebanese to answer that question. Ever since I've come to Sweden I've been asked about Lebanon and the Lebanese, and it's really hard to come up with an answer that sums up the entire heterogeneousness of this tiny country and its people. (I gave it my best shot here if you're curious http://www.lifewithsubtitles.com/2010/07/beirut-vs-goteborg.html) Now as to your comment about community life and your fear of Lebanon collapsing into a KSA-like state, I have to say our sense of community is bent. Sure you people are friendly and help you out if you need anything, but when it comes to people coming together to make a serious difference in the quality of their own lives, we have failed, and still do, disastrously. To contrast with Europe, where that sense of local community might not exist, these people have together as a nation and organized themselves in unions, parties, etc.. and made some serious changes that benefit the entire nation. If I had to pick between two kinds of community support, I'd go for the European model, cause while the first one might make you feel good on a day to day basis, it becomes utterly useless when it's time to lift up your sleeves and get some serious work done. That said, and while I have a tendency to believe Lebanon will keep a certain "unusual" character, I have to admit that the possibility it turns into a KSA-like state is not inconceivable. We stick together along very religious lines, and as long as that's true and we remain religiously territorial in our sense of nationalism, the country is pretty much screwed. We are in fact not a nation, and that right there is something to worry about. If it’s any consolation, it’s also very hard for the Lebanese to answer that question. Ever since I’ve come to Sweden I’ve been asked about Lebanon and the Lebanese, and it’s really hard to come up with an answer that sums up the entire heterogeneousness of this tiny country and its people. (I gave it my best shot here if you’re curious http://www.lifewithsubtitles.com/2010/07/beirut-vs-goteborg.html)

Now as to your comment about community life and your fear of Lebanon collapsing into a KSA-like state, I have to say our sense of community is bent. Sure you people are friendly and help you out if you need anything, but when it comes to people coming together to make a serious difference in the quality of their own lives, we have failed, and still do, disastrously.
To contrast with Europe, where that sense of local community might not exist, these people have together as a nation and organized themselves in unions, parties, etc.. and made some serious changes that benefit the entire nation. If I had to pick between two kinds of community support, I’d go for the European model, cause while the first one might make you feel good on a day to day basis, it becomes utterly useless when it’s time to lift up your sleeves and get some serious work done.

That said, and while I have a tendency to believe Lebanon will keep a certain “unusual” character, I have to admit that the possibility it turns into a KSA-like state is not inconceivable. We stick together along very religious lines, and as long as that’s true and we remain religiously territorial in our sense of nationalism, the country is pretty much screwed. We are in fact not a nation, and that right there is something to worry about.

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By: Chrissy https://gingerbeirut.com/what-are-the-lebanese-like/comment-page-1/#comment-11902 Chrissy Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:38:44 +0000 https://gingerbeirut.com/?p=1323#comment-11902 I've found your blog addictive due to curiosity about my Lebanese boyfriend's hometown, who also gets a kick out of your posts about his country from a Westerner's perspective. This affiliation also has created a sense of "cheering on" Lebanon and its efforts to retain normalcy in a sea of sociopolitical chaos. I have nervously watched the UN tribunal business unfold and I pray that violence doesn't erupt again, as it seems to do just when Beirut is finally back on its feet. So naturally, your first paragraph caught my eye especially because whenever I read news stories about Lebanon, which are usually very dire and dramatic, and yet I know many diaspora who continually visit even with the looming threat of violence. My overriding fear is that the extremists will somehow cause a collapse in the "system" and the country will slowly give way to resembling Saudi Arabia in terms of social freedoms. I’ve found your blog addictive due to curiosity about my Lebanese boyfriend’s hometown, who also gets a kick out of your posts about his country from a Westerner’s perspective. This affiliation also has created a sense of “cheering on” Lebanon and its efforts to retain normalcy in a sea of sociopolitical chaos.

I have nervously watched the UN tribunal business unfold and I pray that violence doesn’t erupt again, as it seems to do just when Beirut is finally back on its feet. So naturally, your first paragraph caught my eye especially because whenever I read news stories about Lebanon, which are usually very dire and dramatic, and yet I know many diaspora who continually visit even with the looming threat of violence.

My overriding fear is that the extremists will somehow cause a collapse in the “system” and the country will slowly give way to resembling Saudi Arabia in terms of social freedoms.

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